Sunday, July 06, 2008

McCain Agrees With Amy Coffman's Position on Bloggers

"I hate the bloggers." - John McCain

"the time has come for me to personally to address the banter to nonsense that, in my opinion discredits Democrats, the democratic process, and purports the senseless world of blogging and the damage I believe it does to campaigning." - Amy Coffman

Just to keep myself on the high road, I will extend to John McCain the same invitation spurned by the Coffman campaign - I will happily publish the answer to the question "What is the most significant policy difference between you and your opponent, and why is your position the correct one?"

Amy Coffman refused my kind invitation - will John McCain follow her lead?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least McCain can express himself; Coffman sounds like a moron.

7/06/2008 4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the life of me, I still don't understand what Coffman meant by her statement. Does anybody?

7/06/2008 5:28 PM  
Anonymous travel said...

A quote, without a reference? In context please. Referring to McCain.

7/06/2008 7:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't Beth answer this?

7/06/2008 8:26 PM  
Anonymous A Hawk said...

Kander will win in a walk.

7/06/2008 10:06 PM  
Blogger Muddy Mo said...

McCain hates bloggers? That's fantastic! The more John plants himself firmly in the past, the better.

7/06/2008 10:18 PM  
Anonymous travel said...

Googled the quote and found it. McCain was trying to be funny and he wasn't. He should stick to Saturday nite live.

7/07/2008 7:17 AM  
Blogger whistleblower said...

Sound Bites!

John McCain has good reason to hate the blogs.

Many of them are just like this one. "Truth be damned" should be the motto of most blogs. Most political blogs only provide enough information to support their own agenda. They have no desire to educate or inform. In fact, they seem to prefer distorting the truth to seeking it.

If you take the time listen to the question posed to McCain, and his response, I think you will find that McCain finds the blogs to be a useful tool in provoking political debate.

The rest of the story

7/07/2008 8:45 AM  
Anonymous Whistleblowme said...

Do you really think political blogs must be dependable, objective, complete news sources, presenting all information both supportive and destructive to the blogger's perspective?

Does "Missouri Dictators" claim to be such a blog?

7/07/2008 9:26 AM  
Anonymous travel said...

Well, Whistleblower. I indeed did see a shorter version of what you posted. I should have waited for the "context" I requested in the first place.

I am 100% against the so-called "Fairness Doctrine".

7/07/2008 9:26 AM  
Blogger whistleblower said...


I agree.

The "Fairness Doctrine" may have a proper place in the mainstream media, but it would seriously interfere with the freedom of expression exercised in the blogosphere.

As far as McCain hating bloggers ;
I hate school zone speed limits, root canals, prostate exams, and paying bills. (To name just a few) That doesn't mean that I don't find every one of those to be useful and important.

7/07/2008 10:42 AM  
Blogger sophia said...


This is kind of funny, but your repeated revisiting of this topic seems unlikely to convice Coffman that your requests for dialogue are made in good faith. I, too, want politicians to appreciate the good that can happen because of blogs. I don't see how this helps. You seem to be proving more about yourself than about Coffman at this point. Just some unsolicited advice offered up by an appreciative reader.

By the way, have you had that beer at Twin City Tavern yet? I heard a rumor they're still smoking there. :)

7/07/2008 10:58 AM  
Anonymous try and delete this one said...

What was the objective of this post, other than to be a cheap hit job on Coffman?

7/07/2008 10:06 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Try and Delete -

Just for clarity sake, I have not deleted comments for disagreeing with me, as even a cursory look will reveal. The stuff I've deleted by A Hawk has been nasty anti-semitic, anti-gay hate speech, and if you happened to see them before I got to delete them, I'm sure you would agree.

You ask what the purpose of my post was? Well, first off, I thought it was funny that McCain and Coffman have found common ground. And, frankly, I also thought it was funny that McCain expressed himself with superior clarity.

And, finally, I like to remind people that Amy Coffman found the time to come to this blog and inartfully attack blogs, but continues to refuse to respond to my completely fair and generous offer. I'll probably find ways to bring it up again a couple more times before the election, just in case any readers missed out on the exchange.

Right now, if you google "Amy Coffman", this site comes up second, and voters can see that Amy has not coped effectively with the "senseless world" of blogging. Makes one wonder how effective she would be dealing with the hardball republicans she would run into in Jefferson City, doesn't it?

7/07/2008 10:30 PM  
Anonymous try and delete said...

I wish I had a $1 for every disparaging thing you or anybody affiliated with you had to say about anonymous bloggers.

You assault them daily, and, hmmmm, anon bloggers are 98% plus of your comments. Let's round that to 99%.

Dan, you have openly ridiculed anonymous blogging, as had other blog editors like Stephen Bough.

So you defend your right to criticise them, but you also defend their right to exist, correct?

What is the difference between you and Amy? Amy has only criticized bloggers, as you have, but you have much more often and much more aggressively.

Amy issues one statement, and you have issued many. Do we have to go back in your archives and get your 100+ quotes attacking anon commenters?

I think we should have an anti- anon blogging quote-a-thon, and see who wins.

7/07/2008 11:00 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Try and Delete -

Of course I would win. I almost always do. I'm pretty good at this stuff.

You are exactly correct - I give anonymous commenters a hard time, but I continue to allow them. If Amy wants to come here and rephrase her complaint to make it only apply to anonymous commenters, that is fine, though her hostility seemed less focused, at least to me. I think she was slamming the "senseless world" of blogging - but I'll acknowledge that her writing was awfully hard to understand, and she is probably the only one who knows what she was trying to say.

7/07/2008 11:11 PM  
Anonymous try and delete said...

To pretend objectivity, and your lack of bias, would be ridiculous, wouldn't you agree?

Amy was attacking the blogoshpere just like you do. Except you are much worse.

We'll have a quote a thon. And you'll have to stand by your words - a stealthy task ahead indeed.

7/07/2008 11:19 PM  
Anonymous ray ray said...

wasnt Dan upset when his identity was revealed months ago?

7/07/2008 11:35 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

A stealthy task ahead?! What? What does that mean? Do you know what the word "stealthy" means?

I'm not even sure what you're trying to get at. I post a blog entry almost every day - Amy has only one comment that she admits to. Of course I've written a lot more blog comments than she does. Heck, over my five plus years of commenting, I may even have made almost as many grammatical mistakes as she did in her one thrilling effort, though I hope not.

Plus, I don't attack the entire blogosphere the way Coffman did.

Finally, why does Amy fear coming here and explaining her greatest policy difference with Jason, and why she is right? I mean, come on, that is a heck of an opportunity!

What is she afraid of? And if she can't handle the pressure of discussing policy with a liberal blogger, how is she going to handle Jefferson City? That's the real problem . . .

7/07/2008 11:37 PM  
Anonymous try and delete said...

Why would Amy, or any self-respecting candidate, post or give any attention to a blog manned by a political hack who has announced against her?

And the guy antagonizing her doesn't even have a high readership?

This is a no-brainer decision.


Three guys sitting in a Waldo basement sipping homebrew over a laptop blogging, trying to antagonize their perceived competition.

And one of the guys you can see light through his ears.

Give me a break.

7/07/2008 11:45 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Try and delete -

You think I'm three people? That's pretty funny.

As for why Amy should come here and post, ask her. She was the one who chose to do so.

You call it a no-brainer decision not to post here, and yet she did. Hmmm.

7/07/2008 11:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To say anyone hates you bloggers is giving yourself way too much credit. That would mean that they have intense feelimgs for you. I would venture to guess that no one in their right mind would give you Freaks such power over their feelings. Go out and get a tan you freaks; smell the fresh air, and get a life. The energy that fuels your anger could be used in more productive way. BLoggers hate themselves!

7/08/2008 3:43 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

Thanks for the helpful advice, Anonymous. Perhaps McCain didn't really say he hates the bloggers, and perhaps Amy Coffman meant something else entirely with her comment. Who knows?

7/08/2008 5:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm pretty good at this stuff."

And oh so humble, too....

7/08/2008 7:10 AM  
Anonymous a hawk hunter said...

That's what I say, "who knows"?

7/08/2008 8:21 PM  
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