Friday, September 05, 2008

Shamelessly Stolen from BlogCCP

BlogCCP has really come into its own lately, and I anticipate it being the top source of local progressive perspectives on the coming campaign season. During the convention, it had two writers providing content fresh from Denver - great stuff!

Yesterday, it provided the following gem:
Quote of the Day
Sarah Palin mocked Barack Obama for leaving the comforts of a big firm and becoming a community organizer. "I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a ‘community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities."

Quote of the Day - "Or, you know, maybe someone needs to remind Sarah Palin that Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor."

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny. I thought Jesus Christ was the Son of God. The King of Kings. A fisherman. A carpenter.

Jesus Christ was not a lawyer.

Here's a little video about the saviour of the Democrats. CLICK HERE

Still want to compare him to Jesus Christ?

9/05/2008 8:11 AM  
Anonymous Rhymes With Right said...

Actually, Dan, Jesus Christ was the Son of God and Savior of the World. Barack Obama only thinks he is.

Besides, Jesus Christ accomplished something during the time you claim he was a community organizer. On the other hand, Obama's own boss told the NY Times in July that Obama didn't.

9/05/2008 4:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something tells me that Jesus would not have shared Obama's position.

You should be ashamed to borrow from someone who compares Obama to Jesus.

9/05/2008 10:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding the video linked by 9/5/08 8:11 a.m. anonymous: Dan compares Obama to Jesus. Did Dan ever stop to think that we throw people in jail who treat dogs BETTER than what is described in the video? Obama voted against legislation that would have made that illegal. He would not have had to leave his pro-abortion position to do this. He would have simply stood against infanticide with most of the world and with all those who retain a shred of humanity.

9/06/2008 5:47 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

You do realize, don't you, that Obama, of course, stands against infanticide, but has the good judgment and moral courage to vote against a deeply flawed law? You are either ignorant or acting in bad faith. Either way, you are bearing false witness. Shame on you.

9/06/2008 5:58 PM  
Anonymous Rhymes With Right said...

Now Dan, let's consider this minor detail -- either Obama was virtually unique among his fellow legislators in finding a flaw in the law, or he was wrong.

And since the language in the law was essentially identical to the federal bill he claims he would have supported, I don't see how you can claim that he had "the good judgment and moral courage to vote against a deeply flawed law".

If the law was so flawed and Obama was so sincerely against abandoning babies born alive to die, a principled legislator would have either introduced amendments to fix the "deeply flawed law" or introduces better legislation that would have protected those babies without the flaws in question. That Obama did neither demonstrates that it is you (and he) who bear false witness regarding his opposition to infanticide, his "good judgment and moral courage", or both.

Face it, Dan -- Barack Obama's position on late term abortions, as demonstrated by his acts and his failure to act, is best summed up as "she paid for a dead baby, so she's entitled to a dead baby." A harsh assessment, I know, but an accurate one.

9/06/2008 9:57 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Oh, RWR, I suspect you're trying to fall within the category of ignorant rather than willfully lying. Good for you.

Any sober, intelligent, informed person knows that your lie is included in the phrase "the language in the law was essentially identical to the federal bill". Not so. You've lied.

9/06/2008 10:07 PM  
Anonymous Rhymes With Right said...

No, Dan -- that is a fact.

And you still ignore the key point -- that as an allegedly principled legislator allegedly against infanticide, he had the option to introduce an amendment to fix the alleged flaw or different legislation that would not contain the alleged flaw. OBAMA DID NEITHER -- so it is quite clear that when he had the chance to say no to infanticide, he did nothing to stop the practice while voting in favor of allowing it to continue.

Like I said, his actions and inaction show us his true position -- "she paid for a dead baby, so she's entitled to a dead baby."

9/07/2008 12:22 PM  
Anonymous Rhymes With Right said...

Dan, I went back and checked my research, and discovered 3 errors in my comments above.

1) Obama was not alone among Democrats in opposing the BAIPA in Illinois.

2) In 2003, the Illinois state senate committee chaired by Senator Barack Obama unanimously amended SB 1082 to include the the exact language of the federal law regarding Roe, with Obama supporting that Amendment.

3. Having now amended the bill to match the federal language that Obama would later say would have gotten the bill his vote, Obama and his fellow Democrats voted to kill the bill in committee.

In other words, I was wrong to assert he was alone in voting against the bill, I was wrong in saying he didn't act to fix the bill, and I was wrong in saying the language was essentially identical (except for quotation marks, it was precisely identical).

But what that does mean is that Barack Obama and his supporters are lying about his record, and that he voted affirmatively to continue infanticide knowing that the bill did not undermine Roe.

9/07/2008 1:26 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Let me know when you're finished retracting falsehoods . . .

9/07/2008 1:38 PM  
Anonymous Rhymes With Right said...

I'm done -- let me know when you start retracting them, Dan.

Better yet, let me know when Barack Obama starts retracting his lies about his vote to allow infanticide.

9/07/2008 7:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rhymes with Right -

Lest you forget, Barack supports a woman's right to choose -

to let her baby die a slow and agonizing death after a failed abortion.

If we put an end to that, it would lead to the subjugation of women by a sexist and paternalistic society.

What should we call Barack's society?

You definitely can't call it maternalistic. Probably not even humanistic. Sadistic . . . . that's the word I was looking for.

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